Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/06/2008 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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Moved CSHB 273(FIN) Out of Committee
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HOUSE BILL NO. 273                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act relating  to school  funding,  the base  student                                                                   
     allocation, district  cost factors, and  the adjustments                                                                   
     for  intensive  services  and average  daily  membership                                                                   
     calculations; and providing for an effective date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:46:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike  Hawker, MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment 1, 25-                                                                   
LS0148\M.1, Mischel,  1/25/08.   Co-Chair Meyer  OBJECTED for                                                                   
discussion purposes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  explained  that  the  amendment  adds                                                                   
essential    information    on   financing    components    &                                                                   
recommendations  made  by  the  Joint  Legislative  Education                                                                   
Funding Task  Force.  At the  time the bill was  drafted, the                                                                   
information  was not  available  to be  included,  addressing                                                                   
recalibration  of  the  pupil   transportation  costs.    The                                                                   
contracts were  rewritten last summer and  then renegotiated.                                                                   
Amendment  1 reflects  those contracts,  adding  them to  the                                                                   
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:48:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW  his   OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                   
further OBJECTTION, Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:48:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID TEAL, DIRECTOR, LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE DIVISION, provided                                                                   
members a handout: "K-12 Foundation  Formula Funding-State of                                                                   
Alaska FY2002 through FY2011".  (Copy on File).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He explained that  the information resulted from  requests to                                                                   
identify  the  numbers representing  inflationary  costs  and                                                                   
basic education  funding.  He  highlighted the  three various                                                                   
scenarios:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   ·    Method 1 - The amount of State spending for                                                                             
        education increased since FY2002                                                                                        
   ·    Method 2 - Increases to the Base Student Allocation                                                                     
        (BSA)                                                                                                                   
   ·    Method 3 - Numbers including retirement costs                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal explained there is "no  clear way" to determine what                                                                   
education funding  actually is  or how it  has changed.   The                                                                   
easiest  way to understand  education  funding is to  observe                                                                   
the  total amount  appropriated for  the foundation  formula.                                                                   
In  FY02,   the  General  Fund   formula  spending   for  the                                                                   
foundation  formula  required  $643  million  dollars;  FY09,                                                                   
General  Fund  spending, not  including  debt  reimbursement,                                                                   
will amount  to $1.214 billion  dollars, which  includes Task                                                                   
Force recommendations not included  in the BSA.  The increase                                                                   
from FY02 to FY09 is anticipated  to be $570 million dollars,                                                                   
an increase  of 89% during the  seven years or a  9.5% annual                                                                   
increased spending.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   inquired   the   location   of   that                                                                   
information on the handout.  Mr.  Teal said the cream colored                                                                   
area listed  under Method  1.  He noted  an objection  to the                                                                   
comparison  of  total  spending   and  the  number  of  items                                                                   
affecting it  includes the student  count.  On a  per student                                                                   
base,  the average  daily  membership (ADM)  in  FY02 was  $5                                                                   
thousand  dollars higher  than  it is  currently.   On a  per                                                                   
student  basis,  funding  was   approximately  $4.8  thousand                                                                   
dollars;  in  FY02 &  FY09,  it  has  increased 95%  to  $9.4                                                                   
thousand dollars.   To adjust that number for  inflation, the                                                                   
spending  would  be  boosted   by  inflation  to  match  FY09                                                                   
equivalent  dollars,  placing  the  increase up  to  62%  per                                                                   
student funding.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara pointed out  that a large dollar increase                                                                   
went into  funding the  retirement shortfall.   That  account                                                                   
was placed into  the BSA for a few years.   He asked if those                                                                   
funds had been  backed out, would there still  be an adjusted                                                                   
inflation  amount increase  to education  funding.   Mr. Teal                                                                   
pointed out  that information was  indicated on the  Method 2                                                                   
chart.  Method  2 identifies the increase to the  BSA, a more                                                                   
traditional   method  at   looking   at  education   funding.                                                                   
Education  funding  tends to  be  a mix  of  State and  local                                                                   
contributions, which can be affected  by property values.  He                                                                   
commented,  the BSA  is the  "cleanest  way" to  look at  the                                                                   
amount of money going toward education in the classroom.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal  referenced handouts  from previous meetings,  which                                                                   
he had  modified to  reflect the  Task Force  recommendations                                                                   
amounting to  a $100 dollar  increase from that  proposed for                                                                   
FY09-FY11, $200 dollars.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal  referenced Handout  2: "Alaska  K-12 Funding,  Base                                                                   
Student Allocation  with Adjustments".  (Copy on  File).  The                                                                   
pencils  on that  chart  do not  show  an increase  quite  as                                                                   
rapidly,   highlighting  a  49%   increase  from   FY02-FY09.                                                                   
However, with  the indicated changes, what is  actually being                                                                   
proposed is a 45% increase.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The BSA  does not reflect what  the State has spent  for K-12                                                                   
because  of  inclusion  of  the   early  opportunity  grants,                                                                   
district   cost  factors,  school   improvement  grants   and                                                                   
intensive needs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:54:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  pointed out that the increases  show the                                                                   
upward flow  to the BSA but  do not indicate  outside funding                                                                   
such as the  learning opportunity grants.   Consequently, the                                                                   
increases  were  actually higher.    He  noted that  a  large                                                                   
portion of  the BSA increases for  a few years had  gone into                                                                   
the  retirement shortfall.    He requested  more  information                                                                   
indicating  the   exclusion  of   money  to  the   retirement                                                                   
shortfall.   He maintained that  those dollars never  go into                                                                   
the classroom.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Teal  advised that  he  had  not tracked  those  numbers                                                                   
because retirement  was funded through the BSA;  in order for                                                                   
it to be tracked, there must be  a conversion of the district                                                                   
cost factors  and the  learning opportunity  grants to  a BSA                                                                   
equivalent.   He  understood  why Representative  Gara  would                                                                   
want  to  do   that  for  the  retirement   numbers  because,                                                                   
basically,  that too is  a reduction  to the  BSA.   He noted                                                                   
those  numbers   were  only  tracked  for  FY09;   he  added,                                                                   
retirement  costs   could  be  ignored  from   the  FY02-FY09                                                                   
comparison.    The  State  now   has  returned  to  the  FY02                                                                   
contribution  rate and retirement  costs have been  corrected                                                                   
in the FY02-FY09 comparison.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:56:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   understood    that   in   FY09,   the                                                                   
contribution rate  would be 12.5%;  he asked if that  was the                                                                   
rate in FY02.  Mr. Teal replied it was approximately 12.5%.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked the  change between FY02  and FY09                                                                   
to per student  funding.  Mr. Teal referenced  the chart with                                                                   
the bars next to the pencils,  Handout 2.  The bars represent                                                                   
the adjustments  to the  BSA.  He  described the  process for                                                                   
determining  the  difference  between  the  graphed  numbers,                                                                   
pointing  out that  in  FY05 &  FY06,  there  was no  funding                                                                   
outside the  formula.  The BSA  and the adjusted BSA  was the                                                                   
same in FY07, including the district  cost factors; in FY09 &                                                                   
later, intensive needs and district  cost factors (DCF) add a                                                                   
substantial amount of funding outside the BSA.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal continued, the Governor's  proposed increase of $200                                                                   
dollars  to the  BSA,  would cost  $44.8  million dollars  in                                                                   
FY09.    Therefore,   the  $90  million  dollars   added  for                                                                   
intensive needs and DCF equals  a $402 dollar increase to the                                                                   
BSA.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:59:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal stated those numbers  include what the Department of                                                                   
Education has indicated in the  footnote with the $35 million                                                                   
& the $70 million dollars outside  the formula, converting it                                                                   
to an  equivalent BSA  and then indicating  the number.   The                                                                   
inflation adjustment  does not include retirement  costs, but                                                                   
instead  addresses   dollars  within  the  classroom.     The                                                                   
increase is  approximately 45%,  with an average  increase of                                                                   
about 5.4%.   The BSA  is anticipated  to increase to  5.8% n                                                                   
FY09,  which  will  be  a  45%   increase  since  FY02.    He                                                                   
reiterated  that  the  average   annual  rate  of  growth  is                                                                   
approximately  5.4% annually.   Inflation has averaged  2.65%                                                                   
each  year, which  means that  since FY02,  K-12 funding  has                                                                   
grown twice the rate of inflation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  observed  that those  numbers  did  not                                                                   
include the cuts for funding.   By excluding retirement costs                                                                   
and then including  the outside allocated dollars  within the                                                                   
formula, the increase will be  5.4% per year.  He pointed out                                                                   
it is  not calculated  and in FY03,  the Legislature  cut the                                                                   
amount  of  pupil transportation  funding  and  the  formula.                                                                   
Additionally,  the   Legislature  cut  the   pre-Kindergarten                                                                   
program,  which  had  been  included   in  the  FY02  budget.                                                                   
Schools were  required to make  up the shortfalls  from their                                                                   
BSA dollars;  hence, classroom  money had  to be placed  into                                                                   
the above listed items.  Community  school funding was cut in                                                                   
FY03.  Representative Gara summarized,  there are a number of                                                                   
funding  sources  K-12  education  in  FY02,  which  are  not                                                                   
indicated in the itemization graph,  which narrows the change                                                                   
between FY02-FY09.  Mr. Teal agreed.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:02:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal admitted  that many complications occur  when making                                                                   
a  comparison.   The  attached  chart represents  only  three                                                                   
scenarios.   Mr. Teal  added that  the items  referred  to by                                                                   
Representative  Gara  were  relatively  small and  would  not                                                                   
change the bottom  line, which is that funding  is increasing                                                                   
roughly twice the rate of inflation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:03:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  noted  that  references  such  as  community                                                                   
schools are not  considered education funding.   He commented                                                                   
that pupil  transportation had  increased.  Mr.  Teal advised                                                                   
that pupil  transportation had  not been indicated,  only the                                                                   
foundation   formula  and  that   pupil  transportation   has                                                                   
increased.  Some consider that  cost outside classroom money.                                                                   
There  are  numerous  methods  that could  be  considered  in                                                                   
providing a valid comparison.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  noted  that   in  FY03,  the  Legislature                                                                   
instituted  a new pupil  transportation funding  arrangement,                                                                   
which he understood  provided an increase.   Currently, those                                                                   
dollars are no longer adequate to address the concerns.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:04:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  observed that  the  analysis had  not                                                                   
included any funding for the major  maintenance list, capital                                                                   
construction  or debt  reimbursement.   Mr.  Teal added,  the                                                                   
included costs are strictly operational.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   recalled   that  in   FY03,   pupil                                                                   
transportation  was  moved  from   a  non-accountable  to  an                                                                   
accountable  system.    He  acknowledged  the  difficulty  of                                                                   
composing  an  analysis and  applauded  the efforts  done  by                                                                   
Legislative Finance Division (LFD).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly  noted   appreciation  for   the  work                                                                   
provided   by  the   LFD  breaking   down  specific   funding                                                                   
information.    He warned  that  there  had not  been  enough                                                                   
information  and research  done for the  choices being  made.                                                                   
He pointed out  the 89% increased educational  funding for K-                                                                   
12 over  the past seven  years, emphasizing his  concern with                                                                   
the proposed budget.   He stated the budget  is unsustainable                                                                   
and  does not  provide adequate  value for  increases to  the                                                                   
educational  system.   He  pointed  out that  the  retirement                                                                   
costs to the  system will take twenty-five years  to pay off.                                                                   
Representative Kelly urged that  a more conservative approach                                                                   
be taken.  He reiterated that  the proposed costs are "out of                                                                   
control".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer agreed with concerns  voiced by Representative                                                                   
Kelly.  He had hoped that the  Task Force would have adequate                                                                   
information  for  making  recommendations.     Representative                                                                   
Hawker noted that Mr. Jeans from  the Department had provided                                                                   
extensive  information regarding  the financial  consequences                                                                   
of the decisions being made.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  advised that  the legislative  appropriations                                                                   
have more than doubled in keeping up with inflation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  remembered opposing the change  to pupil                                                                   
transportation  made in FY03.   Until FY03, school  districts                                                                   
received   full  compensation   for   transportation   costs.                                                                   
Beginning in  FY03, the  communities were provided  increased                                                                   
supplemental  funding  for  fuel   costs.    In  most  school                                                                   
districts,  the increase  has  been steep.   The  Legislature                                                                   
determined  a formula  providing  a percentage  that did  not                                                                   
increase with the  actual costs.  Many districts  have had to                                                                   
take  money  from  their  classroom  funds  to  pay  for  the                                                                   
increased fuel  costs, which has  been a great  concern since                                                                   
FY03.    He  acknowledged,  the  education  debate  has  been                                                                   
frustrating.   Education  policy  should  be determining  the                                                                   
balance between  urban and rural  areas.  In  many districts,                                                                   
class  sizes are  too big.   He  recommended that  discussion                                                                   
occur on  what the  legislature can do  to help reduce  class                                                                   
size.   Instead, discussion  only compares  funding from  one                                                                   
year to  the next.  Representative  Gara worried  about basic                                                                   
education considerations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:12:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal addressed  Method 3, the model  excluding retirement                                                                   
costs.   Method  3  provides an  analytic  view  of only  the                                                                   
dollars in the classroom.  State  retirement contributions on                                                                   
behalf  of school  districts  in FY09  will  be $216  million                                                                   
dollars.   If that  money was  distributed to the  districts,                                                                   
the  BSA would  experience  a 68%  increase  in K-12  funding                                                                   
since FY02,  growing at 7.7%  annually, tripling the  rate of                                                                   
inflation.   Retirement  funding  is costing  the State  more                                                                   
money, however, the teachers are  not being paid more.  There                                                                   
is  no more  available  to the  districts  or the  classrooms                                                                   
because  the funds  are paid  directly to  the Department  of                                                                   
Education.  Method  3 excludes retirement costs.   Retirement                                                                   
costs are now $216 million dollars  per year, which the State                                                                   
pays instead  of increasing the  BSA.  If those  dollars were                                                                   
paid to the  districts, it would be the equivalent  of having                                                                   
a BSA of $6.8  thousand dollars.  He concluded  that it grows                                                                   
triple the rate of inflation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  discussed the amount of  money currently                                                                   
placed into the  education system.  Costs to  the schools are                                                                   
increasing  faster than  inflation.   He questioned  how much                                                                   
health  insurance  &  fuel costs  had  superseded  inflation.                                                                   
Those  costs  are  eating  away  the  district's  ability  to                                                                   
provide curriculum.   Mr. Teal agreed, but did not   have the                                                                   
numbers.  The inflation indicator  being used is the Consumer                                                                   
Price Index (CPI), which has no  relationship to the costs of                                                                   
running schools but is the standard recommendation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:16:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked if  K-12 education system  used a                                                                   
similar index as that used by  the University.  Mr. Teal said                                                                   
no.    Representative  Kelly   opined  that  the  spreadsheet                                                                   
attachment   provides   a  "great   voucher   proposal"   for                                                                   
education.  He reiterated concerns  with the proposed budget.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:17:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDDY JEANS, DIRECTOR, EDUCATION  SUPPORT SERVICES, DEPARTMENT                                                                   
OF EDUCATION  AND EARLY  DEVELOPMENT,  explained that  he had                                                                   
just received the LFD analysis,  which, he assumed originated                                                                   
from his testimony  during the pervious  hearing, identifying                                                                   
the Governor's request  to move $100 dollars  per student per                                                                   
year for each of the next three years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Jeans hoped  he  had not  left  the Committee  with  the                                                                   
impression  that  education  funding  had  not  substantially                                                                   
increased since  FY02.  That was  not his intent.   Mr. Jeans                                                                   
warned it is  inappropriate, for the Legislature  to consider                                                                   
formula adjustments  in an inflation  calculation.   The Task                                                                   
Force   made    recommendations   because    they   perceived                                                                   
deficiencies in  the existing formula,  to be adjusted.   Mr.                                                                   
Jeans stated there  should not be an adjustment,  weighing in                                                                   
a cost  of  living factor.   He  understood that  Anchorage's                                                                   
contract for their teachers would  increase 4%-3%-3% over the                                                                   
next  three years.   The  Governor's proposes  a $200  dollar                                                                   
increase,   which  would   be   slightly  below   4%.     The                                                                   
Administration   attempts  to   achieve  sustainability   and                                                                   
predictability for  the school districts &  municipalities so                                                                   
that  they can  plan  ahead  for the  next  four  years.   He                                                                   
commented  that the $200  dollar increase  will provide  that                                                                   
predictability.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:20:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara maintained  that there must be a formula,                                                                   
protecting both urban  and rural school districts.   He noted                                                                   
his support for the proposal by  the Administration, increase                                                                   
as recommended  in the  bill.  He  observed the increase  for                                                                   
special needs  funding is a fraction  of the real costs.   He                                                                   
asked how  much the  Anchorage School  District receives  for                                                                   
their special  needs student versus  the real costs  for that                                                                   
student.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans replied  that currently, Anchorage  is spending $80                                                                   
thousand  dollars  for  a  special   needs  child;  they  are                                                                   
actually funded  $26 thousand dollars through  the foundation                                                                   
program.    He  hoped that  could  be  a  formula  correction                                                                   
recommended by the Task Force  and to include it as an offset                                                                   
to inflation in the analysis would be inappropriate.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  warned that establishing a  formula that                                                                   
leaves  the  majority   of  students  in  the   State  behind                                                                   
inflation, results  in bigger class sizes &  less curriculum.                                                                   
He hoped  that the  Committee could  discuss ways to  address                                                                   
those concerns.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  disagreed with comments  that Alaskan's                                                                   
only look  at the cost  of education.   He believed  that the                                                                   
public  looks  at  the  total  costs,  reiterating  that  the                                                                   
proposed costs are not sustainable.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:23:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer interjected that  on the State level, only the                                                                   
total  costs should  be addressed.   It  is up  to the  local                                                                   
school districts  to determine which programs  are offered in                                                                   
their location.   The function of the Legislature  is only to                                                                   
provide the necessary funding.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara advised he  intends to offer an amendment                                                                   
on  the  House  floor.    He  urged  reconsideration  of  the                                                                   
proposed increase contained in  the bill.  He agreed with the                                                                   
Administration  that $200  dollars  per year  does make  more                                                                   
sense.    Initially,  the however,  the  Task  Force  members                                                                   
disagreed  about  the  exact  amount  and  decided  that  the                                                                   
Legislature  should  determine  it.    He  requested  further                                                                   
discussion on  the increased levels  of funding are  and what                                                                   
it means  in terms of class  size and curriculum  offered and                                                                   
it affects each student.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:26:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford  noted frustration  maintaining  the                                                                   
status  quo  for  Alaska's  students.    He  urged  a  better                                                                   
investment  in  kids   so  that  they  can   succeed  in  the                                                                   
competitive world.   He supported the number  proposed by the                                                                   
Administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  observed  that the  Education  Funding                                                                   
Task  Force  had a  narrowly  defined  mission and  that  the                                                                   
timeline was  short for  addressing such a  large focus.   He                                                                   
shared frustration as voiced by other members.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:29:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  appreciated the  work that the  Task Force                                                                   
accomplished  with  the requested  direction  provided  them.                                                                   
They did address  some of the needs of Alaskan  students.  He                                                                   
did not agree that the proposed  funding keeps districts at a                                                                   
status quo but  thought, instead, it moves them  forward.  He                                                                   
indicated  the short  funding over  the past  ten years,  and                                                                   
realized  that Anchorage  intensive needs  are a huge  issue.                                                                   
He  mentioned  the special  needs  in  his own  district  and                                                                   
pointed out  that statewide, there  are over 800  children in                                                                   
that  category.   Smaller classrooms  require  more money  in                                                                   
education and/or  hiring more teachers.  He  agreed the topic                                                                   
should be discussed at greater length at a future time.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault acknowledged  the system  is not  perfect.                                                                   
He indicated concern  with the voucher criteria.   He thought                                                                   
that  the  Task  Force  did  an   excellent  job  in  forming                                                                   
legislation, maintaining that  HB 273 improves the outlook of                                                                   
education in the State.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  reiterated his  appreciation for the  work by                                                                   
the Task Force.  He pointed out  the three fiscal notes, with                                                                   
a  new  one   by  the  Department  of  Education   and  Early                                                                   
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative the statistics  on the number of kids actually                                                                   
graduating  from high  school  & how  Alaska  ranks with  the                                                                   
other states.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  acknowledged   there   had  been   a                                                                   
divergence of  opinions brought  forward in drafting  HB 273.                                                                   
He  acknowledged  shared concerns  voiced  by  Representative                                                                   
Kelly.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker MOVED to  REPORT CS HB 273 (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.  Representative Kelly OBJECTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Crawford, Gara, Hawker, Joule, Nelson,                                                                           
               Stoltze, Thomas, Chenault, Meyer                                                                                 
OPPOSED:       Kelly                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster was not present for the vote.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (9-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CS  HB 273(FIN)  was reported  out  of Committee  with a  "do                                                                   
pass"  recommendation  and  with   two  previously  published                                                                   
fiscal  notes  by  the  Department  of  Education  and  Early                                                                   
Development  and one  new fiscal  note by  the Department  of                                                                   
Education and Early Development.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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